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Lower Peninsula Fishing / New lake 9/21
« on: September 22, 2018, 06:17:10 PM »
Those bass are up there looking for baitfish on the surface would be my guess.  Try a whopper plopper or a jitterbug or something like that and bring It from shore out over the drop off.

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Lower Peninsula Fishing / Re: Grand River - 9/20/208
« on: September 22, 2018, 10:15:32 AM »
Went again after work.  Fishing by 8. 

Hooked a big salmon right off the bat.  Lost It.  0 for some number this year...

Donated a $9 Shadow Rap Shad to a stupid little pike that was auditioning for the trapeze act at the circus with his ďIím going to spend the next minute of my life in the air instead of in the waterĒ antics. 

Sirens went off a few times and they changed the floodgate pattern.  Moved to capitalize.  Was rewarded with 4 nice eaters that I put in the cooler...

Husky Jerk HJ 12, crawled as slow as I could and get It to wiggle, silver.

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Lower Peninsula Fishing / Re: Grand River - 9/20/208
« on: September 21, 2018, 11:44:27 AM »
That Zebco is a good indicator of where I am walking out to fish where there is some current from the floodgates.  Straight out from that sign a way It goes from 2 feet to 3 feet to too deep to walk out any further.

I generally go out about as far as I can without getting beyond waist deep. 

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Lower Peninsula Fishing / Grand River - 9/20/208
« on: September 21, 2018, 10:18:05 AM »
Got to the river about 10:30 pm after work.

Water is up a bit and there is some debris, but not horrible by any means.

Smacked a beautiful walleye in my first cast with a silver/black Rapala Shadow Rap just crawled along with the current.

Didnít get another bite on that presentation so I switched It up and the pike were happy to oblige.  All pike came on a Shadow Rap Shad (color didnít seem to matter but most of them were on Halloween pattern) just twitching It an inch or so under the surface.

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Lower Peninsula Fishing / Re: Muskegon River - Croton - 9/18/2018
« on: September 19, 2018, 04:27:33 PM »
So, I failed quite miserably at landing one.  Had 6 hookups, and I couldnít get a single one in.  2 of the 6 I did manage to get turned around, at which point they decided they would try flying out for fun.  My wife also hooked a few and failed as well.  Dodged a couple of thrown lures moving at my face at approximately the speed of light as the fish tried turning the tables and hooking me...

Just crawling anything along through the deeper swift water runs.  Husky Jerk size 10, big Blue Fox (size 4) spinners, Thundersticks - blue/chrome and pink/chrome weíre getting bit when It was light, firetiger was getting bit in the dark.

There were only like 5 people there fishing most of the day.  It was quite nice.

Managed a few little walleye, some smallies, and the wife got a few rainbows and perch as bonus fish.  Not a single pic was taken for some odd reason...

The kings I was hooking were gigantic.  Iím using 30# braid and my 10í salmon rod and couldnít stop em...

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Lower Peninsula Fishing / Muskegon River - Croton - 9/18/2018
« on: September 18, 2018, 04:16:30 PM » loaded with salmon.  Silver.  Big.  Canít get em to the shore...

Still trying...

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Lower Peninsula Fishing / Re: Grand River - 9/14/208
« on: September 17, 2018, 09:48:42 PM »
At Fitzgerald itís hard to say, but Iím guessing that you were seeing the result of some serious upstream landscaping.

When I was getting It a while back at Webber It was because they kept opening and closing the floodgates which was forcing the still water where all the leaves and crap collect to be moved around.  Thing is I think the only gates upstream of Fitzgerald are Mooreís Park and those havenít been moving so...

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Lower Peninsula Fishing / Re: Grand River - 9/14/208
« on: September 16, 2018, 12:57:28 PM »
I cannot get the salmon to hit - they are following and then turning away.  I hooked 2, both tossed It.

Still getting a decent mixed bag though.

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Lower Peninsula Fishing / Re: Grand River - 9/14/208
« on: September 15, 2018, 04:22:22 PM »
I had a multi-species night.  Pike, bass, rock bass, and walleye.  Got many salmon to follow, but not a single taker.  I guess thatís why It is fishing and not catching.  Just crawling any stickbait - doesnít really seem to be a color that is doing any better than any other because I tried all of them.

Also got an ultra-rare closed face Zebco...  and the 890 yards of line and hooks and sinkers It has claimed....

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Lower Peninsula Fishing / Grand River - 9/14/208
« on: September 14, 2018, 09:05:45 AM »
Snuck out after dark at about 10:30 pm or so.

Water is even lower than It has been - It is so low that the meager trickle coming out of the fish ladder is noticeable.

Caught a walleye on a Thunderstick.  Saw something interesting laying on shore.

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Lower Peninsula Fishing / Re: Grand River - Webber Dam - 9/8/2018
« on: September 11, 2018, 02:57:42 PM »
I got a few smallmouth this morning but action was pretty slow.  Water is stupid low again.

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Lower Peninsula Fishing / Re: Grand River - Webber Dam - 9/8/2018
« on: September 10, 2018, 04:32:22 PM »
I went to webber on the side you fish and got 1 bluegill till midnight but I also only went to the second or third opening down stream that was open enough for two people. didn't take waders tho.

I fish two different runs under the coffer. 

The first is if you pop out between the big willow and the tree laying in the water, heave up towards the coffer - I aim for the sign that hangs down when I cast.

The second is what will be rapids if there is ever any water flow on that side again.  Walk as far out as possible - almost in line with the end of the cement wall - and work the backside (side toward the floodgates) of the cement wall all the way downstream to the front of the island.  Be warned - there are some hellacious snags out there.

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Lower Peninsula Fishing / Re: Grand River - Webber Dam - 9/8/2018
« on: September 10, 2018, 12:31:42 AM »
I just donít have the time to go catch bluegills or chubs and then drive to fish for catfish.  Iíd rather spend the bluegill gathering time to fish in the river because I just have less time to fish than I did a few years ago.  I go more often than I used to, but spend less time on each trip.  When I was nailing all the catfish I was putting in 8 solid bourse of prep and fishing.  I am happy to fish 3 or 4 times a week, but Iím generally just fishing for 2-3 hours or so a pop.

Plus, my wife went back to working nights.  When she was free at night, we fished for catfish a lot.

Finally, the dam removal in Lyons has seriously altered the river for quite a ways downstream - the hole I used to get most of the flatheads out of is simply a different spot than It was before.  Not as wide of an eddy, no more big dead trees in the middle of the eddy, a lot more sand on the bottom. 

If i really wanted to target then i know where I would go, but see the start of the reply....

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Lower Peninsula Fishing / Grand River - Webber Dam - 9/8/2018
« on: September 09, 2018, 02:23:32 PM »
Water level goes up...  Water level goes down...

I need to fix my waders.  Got a leg full last night.  So I bought some new ones to use while the old ones dry out.  Then I am going to spend a few days reconditioning the old ones and, ideally, have two pairs.  Thatís a win if I can get them to keep the water out.  The tough part will be the hole in the top on the boot, but I have a plan for that.  The seam by the knee will be easy...  I will report on results because there is confusion all around the web as to what works and what doesnít...


Still no salmon that I have seen.  Thought I had one, but no - It was a big ole flathead:

Also got a smaller flathead and a walleye:

All solid fish and all on a Husky Jerk size 12 firetiger, crawled along the bottom.  Lost a gigantic smallmouth that was well over five pounds as well, but thatís just a fish story...

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Lower Peninsula Fishing / Grand River - Webber Dam - last couple of weeks
« on: September 02, 2018, 02:24:42 PM »
Been fishing quite a lot.  The river continues to give up 2-5 keeper walleye every evening that I continue to throw back...

Two very different patterns, but first a comment of the operation of the dam:

The fish ladder is open.  And that is the only water moving on the east side of the river.  There is still no water coming through the powerhouse. 

The east most floodgate is open.  And is continually being adjusted.  Open.  Close.  Open.  Close.  I have heard that stupid siren more in the last two weeks than all the other sirens of all types (including police fire ambulance and dams) I have heard in my entire life.  One minute I can walk halfway across the river without getting wet, the next that same rocky point is under waist deep water.  This is doing two things:

1) When It comes up, movement of the water is generated under the coffer dam which seems to change the bite.

2) Tons of debris moving around, but the water is still surprisingly clear.  Mostly algae and weeds being washed off the apron.  Which brings me to a side note:

If you are the guys or know the guys walking out on the stupid apron under the floodgates, I will not cry if you or your friends drown.  Especially if you stay out there when that siren goes off.  Seems a pretty big gamble considering Iíve not seen any fish being caught by those folks...  But I digress...

Pike have been hammering white Shadow Raps and Perch Shadow Rap Shads after dark.  They are taking the floating shad ones when the bait breaks the surface as It rises back up after a twitch.  They are taking the sinking ones about three cranks after the bait lands.

I have been getting walleye in Halloween colored (silver / dark green / orange) Shadow Rap Shads off the surface.  Casting up by the coffer in about six inches of water and just twitching It over the rocks.  Only lure I am able to do this with because everything else dives down and grabs weeds on the hooks if I cast that close to the coffer dam.

I have also been getting walleye on regular Shadow Raps in silver or albino shiner (white / orange belly) if the pike donít grab them first.  I am throwing these out and cranking three times VERY SLOW and then dead sticking It.  I am letting It sit on the bottom up to a minute at a time and then just barely twitching It.  I do this for 6-10 twitches and then slow crawl it back along the bottom - as slow as I can reel and get action.  This is incredibly slow.  Very slow.

The point is i am working these crankbaits incredibly slowly.

Only thing I am getting bit on at all.  As far as I can tell I am consistently out fishing even the guys using live minnows.

Have not seen any salmon.  Always have the long pole just in case...

Thereís a few pics...

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